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Ski Test: Salomon S/Force 11

This on-piste allround ski by Salomon has always been interesting and not standard for the industry model. They were the first to switch to soft skis in this category and definitely did not lose even once. Remember their Q-85 which was replaced by completely bombarding XDR 80. But today it’s all in the past the company doesn’t stand still and completely changes the concept for some reason returning to the classic format of universal skis and we have no choice but to try them understand how this solution works and may be interesting to us.

With all my tester experience and the full realization that a professional tester should test every ski completely apart without comparing it with anything and not mixing their emotions and thoughts about other models into the test results and only dryly test the ski according to test parameters, I don’t I can in no way test these skis cut off from their previous XDRs. Naturally, the final protocol on the WST tests within which I tested them I evaluated them strictly statistically and impartially, but in this report, I can only evaluate them in comparison with those skis they came to replace. Although, I don’t understand how they can be compared because it’s impossible to compare other skis. It is like in a joke: did you see the sunset over the sea? - the same colour is only green. With them as well.

As for skating, we got a completely standard and far from the best of the existing analogues ski slopes with a waist of 80: heavy, gloomy, hard, fast. Included received a question to which I have long had no answer: for whom and why?

In carving maintenance, skis are fast and tenacious, but completely curved and with dynamic re-centring along the course of the turn, they lose the incisive guidance to which it is not easy to return them. With their enormous length of edging, on the one hand, they are tenacious, on the other they are cumbersome and all their tenacity works against the skier: if it is necessary to perform manoeuvres to control the speed and trajectory, it is not easy to take them out of the trajectory of the existing movement and they need to be completely unloaded and worked well, and there where you expect stability and rails from skis, they themselves fall out of the arc.

The tip is hard and, in any type of skating, it can only be flexed when loaded even in flat reference with a very neat edge added. A bit overdone and the tip goes off from the trajectory into slipping and with all its enormous length of the rope collects all the troubles on the piste which mercilessly pound on the legs. The middle is very tough, tenacious and uncomfortable. In any format riding on the middle of the legs are killed. The tail is probably the only part of the ski that works and gives elasticity and comfort. In carving from the tail, you can squeeze the variability of the rhythm of skiing and he does not lose the arc when loading, in a sliding turn with an accentuated work on the tail, you can get a dynamic return on unloading.

But the tail is harsh and according to the result, skiing has its own skiing rhythm very, very fast. Manoeuvring and slowly ride them with pleasure does not work. They require acceleration and work with an emphasis on the rear rack and the classics.

On cross-country skiing does not give any advantage in comparison with the care skis with a waist of not more than 70 mm. Dull, hard noses do not lick the bumps, but, on the contrary, collect them in the legs and have to work them out. The only way to use the noses is to chop the bumps at speed, but any hard skis at the speed chop the bumps. Universal skis are needed precisely in order to ride on a broken piste without speed in comfort mode. With these skis that do not work. And it turns out that they are no better than the cross-country carves, but in terms of efficiency on the piste they are much inferior to them in everything.

Comparison with XDR is out of the question. This is not just worse than it was - it is a complete fiasco. This is a banal, far from the best, following the trend - the 80-foot trail skis that appeared to all manufacturers and the appearance of which, as it was a mystery, remains an incomprehensible phenomenon. And if you add the fact that Salomon and Atomic is one company, the appearance of this model is a mystery at all. They will not become any competitors of Vantajas from Atomic and will not be able to supplement them either.

Short turn
Long turn
Peak stability at a turn 3 / 15 m.
Dynamic turn radius 4 / 14 m.
Turn radius range 15 - 18 м.
Best piste 5 - 8
Testing condition
Red piste. Hard morning snow and corduroy. Good visibility. One ride test.
Boots: Tecnica Zero G (2017-18) - 110 flex.

Skis have only one audience - experts who are enthusiastic about classics who appreciate fitness in skating and prefer skis that make you work, and the more you are tired of skiing, the better the skis are. Experts who are passionate about modern cutting turn skis are not interesting at all and are not able to give the desired drive. Beginners skis just do not suit because they can only give problems in skating. Progressive skis can not give an accurate sense of a cut arc, nor teach proper skating. They can only teach rear carving, which is essentially a mistake. Vacationers, they are not suitable because after they have to rest.